Gambling / Betting System Reviews

Its Official

2009-08-23T15:31:00.000-07:00

Yes you have read it here first!

The new site is up and running and i would welcome feedback from every single one of the people who take the time to read this site every day.

The new address is http://www.onlineracingreview.com/ it is stillll a bit rough around the edges but is fully functional and is easier navigated than this one.

I will still be leaving this site up so anyone can browse the vast archive of valuable information that we have gathered here over the past year and a bit.

ps Dont forget to change your bookmarks, the new site again is http://www.onlineracingreview.com

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-23T11:41:00.000-07:00

Day 25
Todays lay was Portimonense at 1.81 and they won 2-1 so a loss of £10.91.

Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58
Lay 6 Loss £11.86 Bank £106.73
Lay 7 Loss £10.67 Bank £96.06
Lay 8 Profit £13.04 Bank £109.09
Lay 9 Loss £10.91 Bank £98.18.

We just need a couple of lays to go our way but we are only £1.82 down.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-23T08:23:00.000-07:00

Day 24
We had a lay on Sat on Gaz Metan at 1.7 and they lost 2-0, so the losing run of 4 came to an end and we made a profit of £13.04 after commission, to put the bank back into the black.
There is another lay for today lets hope we get another good result.

Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58
Lay 6 Loss £11.86 Bank £106.73
Lay 7 Loss £10.67 Bank £96.06
Lay 8 Profit £13.04 Bank £109.09

Moving Out!

2009-08-23T03:37:00.000-07:00

Firstly , id like to apologise to anyone who has noticed that i havent posted on the blog in a few days recently, i know i have talked about it for some time but the new website is finally ready, well 95% ready. This blogger tool that i use while very effective is limited in what it can do, and basically i want to a lot more. Dont worry though, i wont be going commercialised or selling products or anything like that, and reviewing systems as we do on a daily basis will always be the what the new site will revolve around- but with a few extra, and i hope useful features as well as an exciting opportunity for all the readership.

Firstly i need to get my fellow bloggers Justin, Eddie & Ivor moved as well and get them up and running on the new site- this blog wouldnt be what it is without them and it i extend my thanks to them for that.

I hope to give you all details of the new site either tomorrow or late this evening and i hope everyone likes it, the last thing i want to have to do is move back here because you all dont like it.

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-23T00:01:00.000-07:00

Okay nothing for Thursday but Friday and Saturday produced 6 low risk trades of which we had two winners and 4 guaranteed trades which all but one matched up before the trade went in-play and again no negatives to report. We are now compounding our profits to get a new bank each day and although the rewards aren't fantastic especially on the guaranteed trades we are chipping away making nearly 30% on our original bank which is an exceptional return in any sphere given the time this takes. I am literally doing this when I have five minutes in between other commitements so is a true random test that so far has consistently produced results and does become second nature after a time. Our next trades will be 10% of our new £ 384.43 bank.

Profits: £ 22.27
Running total: £ 84.43

Handicap Banker

2009-08-22T09:58:00.000-07:00

Day 18
Another hammering for this extremely weak system. Just 1 successful lay out of 4 and a loss today of 8.23 points.The running total now shows a deficit of 44.16 points.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-22T09:08:00.000-07:00

Day 27
Just 1 winning bet today at 4/6 and 2 losers.Loss on the day is 1.34 points which leaves the running total at +3.77 points.

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-22T00:28:00.000-07:00

Revised profit for the system based on 10% of the daily bank to set our trading amount is around an extra £10 and when compounded and divided each day can soon start to amount as the days/weeks go by and the bank gets hopefully bigger. The original bank of £ 300 now stands at £362.16. I have a couple of days trading to calculate and will bring up to date tonight but this is where we left it last time with the revised figures. I have also rounded up or down the trading amounts to the nearest quid so we are not messing with pennies but this will balance out long term and the next trades will be for £ 36.00.

Bank Balance: £ 362.16
Profit: + £ 62.16.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-21T15:34:00.000-07:00

Day 23
Today we layed Poli Iasi in the Romanaian League and they won the game 2-0 so a loss of £10.67.
This now makes 4 losing lays on the trot now, although he did have 2 losing runs of 7 last season.
Lets hope we can get a result tomorrow.

Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58
Lay 6 Loss £11.86 Bank £106.73
Lay 7 Loss £10.67 Bank £96.06

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-21T12:52:00.000-07:00

Day 26
Six bets today with just one winner at 6/1 so a profit of 1 point leaves the running total at +5.11 points.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-21T11:26:00.000-07:00

Day 17
Another almost inevitable losing day.Of the 5 lays only 3 were successful resulting in a loss of 1.75 points taking the running total down to -35.93 points, an average loss of more than 2 points per day.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-20T14:57:00.000-07:00

Day 22
Today we layed Genoa at 1.58 unfortunately they won 3-1 and we lost £11.86.
Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58
Lay 6 Loss £11.86 Bank £106.73

Handicap Banker

2009-08-20T12:25:00.000-07:00

Day 16
Seven bets today and 6 successful lays but the gain is just 0.79 points reducing the overall deficit to -34.18 points.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-20T08:34:00.000-07:00

Day 25
One non runner reduced the number of selections to 2 which won their respective races at 11/2 on [2/11] and 6/4 giving a gain on the day of 1.68 points.Running total creeps ahead to +4.11 points.

The Secret Gambles Handbook

2009-08-20T00:02:00.000-07:00

Update: Check out the website (link on right hand side) which includes a results blog for the system. Apparantly they are looking at updating these results on a regular basis. If we can get anywhere near the outlined claims which show up to 200 points per quarter then we are in business.

Spot The Lay

2009-08-19T14:53:00.000-07:00

I tested this system for 32 days and at the end of that period it was showing a profit of £51.85.
It does use a staking plan were you increase your stakes to a max of 2pts after each winner and then revert back to 1pt after a loser.
It was very easy and quick to find the lays for each day but you do need to use the Racing Post for the info that is required.
This can also be done the night before and it is very easy to set up a bot to look after any lays that may qualify while you are at work.
The mistake I made was to set the bot too near to the time of the race being off, and I think if I had it set to look at the lay price earlier, then I beleive that there would have been more lays and more profit.
The max price you lay to is 4.2.
All in all it was a very easy method and one that made a profit if only small, and I think its worthy of consideration, as I would like to see how it performs over a longer period.
It is certainly worth having in your portfolio of systems.

You get Spot the Lay Here

Quick On The Draw.

2009-08-19T12:50:00.000-07:00

Meeting 12. We had two qualifying races on tonights Kempton card and we had no winners from our total six selections making a 6 point loss on the evening overall and has to be said that the best results of all six runners was a couple of mediocre third places. I must have caught this system in a mid transitional period as results leading up to the test were doing okay but then again I am not aware of anyone running the test for this long. If anyone is using this sytem I would be interested in any comments thus far.

Meeting Profit: - £ 60.00
Running Total: - £ 278.82.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-19T12:32:00.000-07:00

Day 15
Another disastrous day for the system with 11 bets, 6 successful lays and 5 losers.Loss on the day was -9.33 points and the running total now shows a loss of 34.97 points.As we are now half way through the test I'll express this in the same way as they do on the system website which claims a gain of £2000 a month to £50 lays. So this means that at half way point the system has LOST £1,748.50p. Let's see if this continues in the same vein for the rest of the test.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-19T12:28:00.000-07:00

Day 24
Not a good day.There were 14 bets with just 2 winners at 4/1 on [1/4] and 9/2 .Loss on the day was 7.25 points leaving the running total at + 2.43 points.

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-19T11:30:00.000-07:00

There were less trades today than normal being either short or open markets and the ones I did view were quite flat near the off giving no real indicators as to which way the price was likely to go so nothing to report.
Like a numpty I haven't been compounding the profits and using 10% of the new bank each time so although the increase won't be great each time it will no doubt pay dividends over the longer term. I will update these on my next posting.

Daily profit: Nil
Running total: To be revised.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-19T10:39:00.000-07:00

Day 21
No lay today, but there looks like there is a bet for tomorrow.
Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58

The Secret Gambles Handbook

2009-08-19T04:05:00.000-07:00

I will be testing this system starting at some point during next week and will be familiarising myself with the process in the meantime and on the first read seems logical enough.
This system pdf costs £ 297.00 and yes you read this right so has a lot to live up to and basically targets horses that are likely to be subject to a gamble via a simple rules elimination process and various indicators within the market that strongly suggest the chances of winning are more so than its current (overpriced) value between odds of 5/1 and 12/1.. phew..
All selections will be backed using 1 point each way and a recommended minimum bank of 40 points will be used at £ 10 per point. The only results example on the pdf we have is for December 2007 which is a little worrying for the lack of updating and hopefully he has not been dining out on this since! Out of 23 selections it hit a 91.30 return percentage making 107.5 points profit in total so a high strike rate is expected. I will take a look at the website to gleen some more results info etc in the meantime. We have to view the live bookmaker markets before the off and all evening and AW racing is eliminated thus narrowing down the options for the 9-5ers.. As per my usual stylie I will fill you in with tit bits along the road to rags or riches and hopefully we can score some decent results in this ever floundering but seemingly reasuringly expensive market for a good quality profit making systems.

Lowlay

2009-08-18T14:17:00.002-07:00

Todays Lowlay clawed us back another £9.50 making our total loss now -£173.32

Lay and Win

2009-08-18T14:17:00.001-07:00

No action today

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-18T14:08:00.000-07:00

Day 20
No lay today.
Here are the bets so far
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58

Handicap Banker

2009-08-18T11:42:00.000-07:00

Day 14
Just 1 successful lay today and 2 losers from the 3 selections. Loss on the day was - 3.98 points and the running total drops even further to -25.64 points. I can't see this poor system making much headway in the weeks ahead.

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-18T11:25:00.000-07:00

Five more trades on Tuesday with one winner out of three low risk trades and two positive guaranteed trades making what seems a small profit but in comparitive terms relating to time taken vs reward vs small trading amounts is proving to be a reliable source at present.
There are plenty more opportunities than this on a daily basis and these are just when I have had time to view the markets in between other commitments.

Daily profit : £ 6.09
Running total: £ 52.55

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-18T05:22:00.000-07:00

Day 23
No selections for the system today.

Lowlay

2009-08-17T13:16:00.000-07:00

Day 57

Success today and we move a few inches back up the slippery slope, loss to date -£182.82

Lay and Win

2009-08-17T13:01:00.000-07:00

Day 102

No Bet today

Handicap Banker

2009-08-17T13:00:00.000-07:00

Day 13
Nine selections today and despite there being 6 successful lays and 3 losers the system still lost 1.71 points.This leaves the running total at -21.66 points.

Quick On The Draw.

2009-08-17T12:25:00.000-07:00

Meetings 10 & 11. We had 3 qualifying races over the past two meetings and all three races were winners but unfortuately the odds were all short and only just covering the two other equally backed selections in each race. One race had two non runners and one withdrawn just before the offski and by only having two runners in this particular race is the only reason we made a small 0.919 point overall profit. The systems average winning price seems to be taking somewhat of a hammering of late.

Meeting profits: £ 9.19
Running total: - £ 218.82

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-17T11:05:00.000-07:00

Day 22
A good recovery for the system today to take it back into profit.There were 7 possible selections reduced to 5 because of price restrictions. The 5 bets gave 2 losing bets,2 winners at 8/1 and 11/1 and a place at 8/1. The 11/1 winner was also a 2 point bet[1 point each-way].The gain on the day was 22.2 points leaving the running total at + 9.68 points.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-17T09:38:00.000-07:00

Day 19
No lay today but I'm afraid I cocked up on the first lay when I said the profit was £15.15 and added it to our £100 bank, I forgot to take off the commission.
So here are the proper figures;
Lay 1 Profit £14.39 Bank £114.39
Lay 2 Profit £13.58 Bank £127.97
Lay 3 Profit £18.42 Bank £146.69
Lay 4 Loss £14.64 Bank £131.75
Lay 5 Loss £13.17 Bank £118.58

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-17T03:14:00.000-07:00

A very busy weekend for me personally so not had time to post any results etc and as this trading system can be used at any time which is useful for evening and weekend race fans.
Anyway 11 trades over the weekend broke down into 7 low risk trades of which 5 won making a profit of £ 25.50 and 4 guaranteed trades making £ 8.30 all of which performed as per instruction. Many of the low risk trades are my own account selections so a little bit of study although not necessary can help point you in the right direction. These profits aren't bad at our current staking level considering that they took only about an hour to complete and using a very tight price margin.

Profit: £ 33.80
Running Total: £46.46

General Update

2009-08-16T13:34:00.000-07:00

A few snippets of information, some of you may be interested in, i received an email a couple of days ago from a reader i am going to paste it directly in here as i received it, and i point out that im just passing this on and make no claim to the integrity of it,

"Hi Sam,

Have noticed a website called the Evening Laying Service and have a strong suspicion that this is the same people who have promoted the lay365 and syndicate 100 (amongs others) laying services all which have bummed out. They do not proof their results and their results pages are bullshit. When the service bums out they just disapear, set up another one and let it sit on the net dangling their hook to unsuspecting punters.
I made an enquiry with no reply as they have probably recognised my email address. I was a member of the syndicate 100 and did okay for a while before sussing something was amiss and had the savy to get out before they bummed out.. Payments for this service are likely to be via standing order made payable to a M. Tipton. www.lay-pm.mobi They use the same do your own site with a suspiciously similar writing style and layout. "

Anyway, you can make your own mind up but i wont be reviewing this service anyhow

Onto Moody Mares which i had began to test but stopped because the site was displaying a not currently for sale sign, it now appears that this system hasnt quite lived up to expectations and has been completly removed from the market place, anyone using this system id be interested to hear how it is preforming

Lowlay

2009-08-16T13:29:00.000-07:00

Day 55 & 56

One successful bet yesterday and an unsuccessful one today at odds of 2.1, meaning a break even over the past two days give or take a few pence

Lay and Win

2009-08-16T13:27:00.000-07:00

Days 100 & 101

One bet over the past 2 days adding another £9.50, total profit is now £211.13

Handicap Banker

2009-08-16T09:50:00.000-07:00

Day12
One successful lay today reduces the deficit by 0.95 points after 5% commission to Betfair leaving a slightly reduced loss of -19.95 points.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-16T03:22:00.000-07:00

Day 18
Todays lay was on Tomsk in the Russian Prem League and they won 1-0 with a goal in injury time.
So a loss today of £13.20.
The bank is now £119.40 and our liability for our next lay will be £11.90 (10% of the bank)
We have had 5 lays so far and 3 have been successful.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-16T01:48:00.000-07:00

Day 21
No qualifiers today.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-15T12:25:00.000-07:00

Day 11
Another bad day for a poor system. Four selections and 2 successful lays and 2 losers resulting in a loss of 4.55 points.Running total now shows a loss of -20.90 points. The website bragged of making thousands a month. I shall be very surprised if it can make any profit at all as a lay system but it does show promise as a backing system!

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-15T09:49:00.000-07:00

Day 17
Todays lay was Forfar in Scottish Div 3 and unfortunately they won 1-0 so a loss of £14.73.
The bank is now £132.60 and our liability for our next lay will be £13.20 (10% of the bank)
We have had 4 lays so far and 3 have been successful.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-15T09:27:00.000-07:00

Day 20
A relatively quiet day for a Saturday with just 3 bets, 1 winning at 11/4 and 2 losers so a small gain of 0.75 points today.This leaves the running total standing at -12.52 points.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-14T13:32:00.000-07:00

Day 10
Ten selections today, 8 being successful lays and 2 losing bets. A rare gain on the day of 3.62 points and the loss now stands at -16.35 points.

Lay and Win

2009-08-14T12:20:00.000-07:00

Days 98 & 99

Over the past 2 days we have one bet which netted us another £9.50 taking our profit up to a total of £201.80

Lowlay

2009-08-14T12:16:00.000-07:00

Day 53 & 54

£19 clawed back with 2 successful bets, lets hope we get a great run as we need it , our defecit now sits at £192.32

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-14T11:57:00.000-07:00

Day 19
There were 6 selections today,4 losers and 2 winners at 7/4 and 11/2 giving a profit on the day of 3.25 points.The loss eases to -13.27 points overall.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-14T10:39:00.001-07:00

Day 16
No bets today
The bank is £147.33 and the liability for our next lay is £14.73 (10% of the bank).

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-13T12:44:00.000-07:00

Day 18
Just 3 bets today with 1 winner at 17/2 and 2 losers but a much needed profit for the system. Gain on the day is 6.5 points and running total is now -16.52. Lets hope it continues tomorrow.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-13T12:40:00.000-07:00

Day 9
Nine bets today with 6 successful lays and 3 losers and yet again a loss of 2.12 points on the day taking the total down to -20.07points

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-13T11:46:00.000-07:00

I checked out 5 trades today within the price ranges which 2 of these were successful guaranteed trades and 3 were low risk trades of which 2 actually won with one losing but clipping our lay in-play bet so only a commission loss on that one. £30.00 is low in terms of trading especially with such small price increments but we made a profit of £ 12.66 in total for 30 minutes work.
2 trades were matched up before the in-play markets and one was hanging unmatched for an uncomfortable period of time.

Daily profit: £ 12.66
Running total: £ 12.66

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-13T09:58:00.001-07:00

Day 15
No bets today
The bank is £147.33 and the liability for our next lay is £14.73 (10% of the bank).

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-13T05:09:00.000-07:00

I will be posting the days results here tonight but just to recap; We are looking at favourites an hour or so before racing begins that are within a certain price range. Depending on the outlined market pointers up to the five minute before the race starts we are going to either back or lay our selection based on market trends just before the off and then set a small price differential to trade off our selection whilst in play either for a low risk or a guaranteed trade. Profits will be small based on the stated increment and we are advised to play 10% of our banks per trade. The only real problem I can see is if our price doesn't get matched for whatever reason whilst in play and goes the other way then we are stuck with either a back bet or lay bet liability which could leave the betting bank in a vulnerable position and make take many trades to recoupe. Anyway we will see what we will see on this one but it has to be said that the market pointers outlined are standard practice for your average cold trading Betfairian.

Horse RAcing Tipster

2009-08-12T14:18:00.000-07:00

Day 2

According to the vendor this closes on Friday and will then open on a monthly basis to fill vacated spots, 2 bets today both losers knocking the profit back to £26.60

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-12T14:12:00.000-07:00

Day 17
This system continues to disappoint with every passing day.Just 1 winner today from 10 selections.The 9/4 winner was a 2 point selection as per the rules but despite this it lost 5.5 points today taking the running total down to -23.02 points. Desperately needs a few good priced winners to turn the loss into a profit.

Lay and Win

2009-08-12T14:09:00.000-07:00

Day 96 & 97

One bet over the past 2 days and the total profit after a successful bet rises to £192.30

Handicap Banker

2009-08-12T13:51:00.000-07:00

Day 8
Nine selections today with 5 successful lays and 4 losers giving a loss on the day of 4.87 points and the total since the test began now stands at -17.95 points.The system selects far to many horses which win their races and if it continues to do so over the next week will have to be filed under the failed section as in my opinion it has very little going for it as a lay system.

Lowlay

2009-08-12T12:53:00.000-07:00

Day 51 & 52

2 successful days betting clawing £19 back making our total defecit now £211.32

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-12T12:07:00.000-07:00

Day 14
No bets today
The bank is £147.33 and the liability for our next lay is £14.73 (10% of the bank).

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-11T13:39:00.000-07:00

Day 13
As promised the result for tonights game was a lay on Dundalk @ 1.66 which I was matched at and the game ended 0-0 so our 3rd successful lay.
We staked £19.50 which gave us a liability of £12.87 (10% of our bank)and a profit of £18.52 after commission.
The bank is now £147.33 and the liability for our next lay is £14.73 (10% of the bank).
So far we have had 3 lays and all successful.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-11T13:26:00.000-07:00

Day 7
Seven bets today, 5 successful lays and 2 losers but the system gains just 0.17 points and the total now stands at -13.08. Will have to do far better than this to live up to the website claims of 40 points a month.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-11T13:24:00.000-07:00

Day 16
A poor day for the system with all 6 bets losing so a loss of 6 points takes the running total down to -17.52.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-11T00:54:00.000-07:00

Day 12
There were no bets on Monday but there is a bet tonight.
I will put up the result later this evening.

Horse Racing Tipster

2009-08-10T22:51:00.000-07:00

Over the coming weeks i will be testing this new service which is aptly called horse racing tipster, which at approx £50 month is quite pricey and slightly above the norm, so lets hope that it works well, i will be carrying out my test using £10 level stakes
The service includes back and lay bets

Yesterday had 3 back bets 2 of which won at odds of 3/1 and 7/4 and one lay bet which was also successful for us, profit after day 1 = £47 . 60 - this we would settle for daily

You can visit the website here

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-10T13:07:00.000-07:00

Day 15
Just 3 selections today giving 1 winner at 7/2 and a gain of 1.5 points leaves the running total at a loss of 11.52 points.

Lowlay

2009-08-10T12:57:00.000-07:00

Day 50

Another dent in the bank today costing us £33 , making our total loss to date £230.27
We now need 24 bets in a row to get back to break even stage

Lay and Win

2009-08-10T12:56:00.001-07:00

No action today- remember this is quite normal to have quiet periods

Handicap banker

2009-08-10T12:54:00.000-07:00

Day 6
A very poor day today with 8 selections, 4 wins and 4 losses giving a loss of 10 points and the running total becomes -13.25 points.

Five Minute Profits.

2009-08-10T11:17:00.000-07:00

In a few days I will be testing the Five Minute Profits system which costs £ 29.00 and comes in the form of the usual PDF download. The book is well written and the initial pages are directed at getting the correct mindset for trading with emphasis on not being too greedy and has good examples and screenshots etc. Basically what we are looking at is a trading method using specific pointers within the Betfair market place in order to predict a few ticks profit based on the type of lay or back bet we decide to make acting on the information gleened. This is based upon proven price criteria which is likely to give us an ideal and quickly exectuted trade with low risk.
The system covers both low risk trades and guaranteed trades on the general understanding that once you have got the hang of it then how you feel you can make the profit is entirely up to the individual. The emphasis is on smaller regular profits and is by no means hailing itself as a get rich scheme which makes a refreshing change. Markets will need to be viewed just before the off so may not suit 9-5ers although the use of a bot can make life a bit easier and plenty of evening racing is available so most people have some opportunity. I will familiarise myself with the techniques which seem simple enough to impliment and will fill you in on any snippets throughout the test as normal. There is a second method on greyhounds within the ebook but for the purpose of the test we will stick to the main category. I have decided to use an average stake of £ 30.00 as the general benchmark and see how we fair.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-10T11:08:00.000-07:00

After having spoken to Sam we have agreed that there is no point in carrying on with The Place to Lay system as its quite clearly not performing, and will only continue to lose money.
Over the 20 days that it was tested it lost £262.10 of the £1000 bank and only managed to acheive a strike rate of 40%.
The system was basically laying 2nd Favs in certain races not to be placed, but the author wants you to watch the market to see which horse is the sp 2nd Fav, and as you will be aware in some instances the market can be very close right up until the off, so which one do you lay?
If you have to work, and lets be honest most of us do, then you can use a bot, but that will of course lay the 2nd fav according to the betfair odds, and on occassions that horse will not be the sp 2nd fav.
So unless you can sit in front of the tv all day watching the market then your selections will not always be the same as the author claims.
It would appear that the author has gone over some previous results, and decided over probably a short period of time that this idea might just work.
Unfortunately it doesnt appear to work,and therefore it has to go into the failed category.

You can visit the website here

Lowlay

2009-08-09T22:58:00.000-07:00

Days 47-49

2 successful bets, and one unsuccessful over the weekend making a total loss of £1.50

the p/l has had no significant change due to this and remains at -£197.27

Lay and Win

2009-08-09T22:56:00.000-07:00

Day 92-94

One bet over the past three days which was again successful , the total profit now rises to £182.80

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-09T10:26:00.000-07:00

Day 14
Three bets today and 3 losers giving a loss of 5 points as 2 of the bets were each for 2 points.Running total is now -13.02 points.One of todays bets was just outside the price limits at SP but as the bets can be placed at anytime it was within limits earlier in the day so has been counted as a loss.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-09T10:23:00.000-07:00

Day 5
Three successful lays today from 3 bets so a profit of 2.85 points after paying 5% Betfair commission leaves the running total at a loss of 3.25 points.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-09T09:36:00.000-07:00

Day 11
No bets today
The bank remains at £128.81 and the next bet will be to a liability of £12.88 which is 10% of the bank.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-09T09:27:00.000-07:00

Day 20
Another busy day with 6 lays and another dismal effort with 5 of them being placed and a whopping loss of £80.80 on the day.
The bank has now dwindled to £737.90.
There have been 77 lays and 31 have been unplaced which is 40%
Thankfully only 10 days left until the end of the trial for this system, and yet another that fails to deliver because its not thought out well enough, still onward we go.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-08T13:10:00.000-07:00

Day 4
Fifteen selections today and 11 successful lays but frustratingly a small loss of 0.64 points to Betfair SP.Loss now amounts to 6.1 points.

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-08T12:41:00.000-07:00

I know I said there would be no messages until Monday but I rechecked the figures for today and found a bet in the Scottish Div 3.
The bet was to lay Montrose and I managed to get 1.8 the result was a 1-1 draw so a 2nd successful lay.
The stake was £14.38 which was to a liability of 10% of the bank (£11.51)so a profit of £13.66 after commission.
The bank is now £128.81 and the next bet will be to a liability of £12.88 which is 10% of the bank.
So far 2 lays and both successful and a good start dont forget the author expects to be around the 50% mark with these.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-08T12:38:00.000-07:00

Day 19
Another busy day with 6 lays and another losing day with a loss of £33 the bank is now £818.70.
There have been 71 lays and 30 have been unplaced which is 42%

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-08T09:47:00.000-07:00

Day 13
A few points clawed back today with 2 winners from 5 selections at 4/7 and 6/1.Gain on the day was 3.55 points and the running total now stands at -8.02 points.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-07T15:16:00.000-07:00

Day 18
Another very busy day with 12 lays 5 of which were unplaced and we had a loss for the day of £18.40.
The bank now stands at £851.70.
There have been 65 lays and 28 have been unplaced which is 43%

Handicap Banker

2009-08-07T12:36:00.000-07:00

Day 3
Yesterday I stated the running profit was 0.46 points but the first 2 days of the test I forgot to take off 5% Betfair commission on winning lays which makes the profit as near as damn it zero. So apologies for that.Today there were 10 selections with 6 successful lays and 4 winners which lost 5.46 points on the day which is also now the running total.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-07T12:02:00.000-07:00

Day 12
Another poor day.Six bets today which I reduced to 5 because one of the bets was 12/1 on and I would never bet on such odds but the horse did win. All 5 bets lost which now makes the running total -11.57 points.In need of a winner or two at decent prices over the weekend to move into profit.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-06T14:04:00.000-07:00

Day 17
A very busy day today with 8 lays and unfortunately only 4 of them where unplaced a loss of £16 for the day.
The bank is now £870.10.
There have been 53 lays and 23 have been unplaced which is 43%

Handicap Banker

2009-08-06T12:48:00.000-07:00

Day2
Four successful lays today from 6 bets and the bank creeps ahead by 0.21points but at least it's heading the right way.Profit so far 0.46 points. If betting first thing this morning before non runners were declared there would have been a few more bets.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-06T12:17:00.000-07:00

Day 11
Six losing bets today and 2 winners at 5/2 and 11/2.So that's a welcome gain of 2 points on the day.Running total now stands at a loss of 6.57 points.

Lowlay

2009-08-06T10:09:00.000-07:00

Day 46

a successful bet today

total now -£195.77

Lay and Win

2009-08-06T10:07:00.000-07:00

Day 91

No bet today

Quick On The Draw.

2009-08-05T14:08:00.000-07:00

Meeting 9. No qualifying bets for tonights Kempton meeting so no chance as yet to fully prove its worth. We should have a bunch of meetings coming up so every opportunity to shine. It has to be said though that quite a few systems in general have hit a bumpy patch this year and one must not let emotion dictate and give up too soon.

Running Total: - £227.82.

The Place To Lay

2009-08-05T13:07:00.000-07:00

Day 16
There were 6 lays today with 3 of them being unplaced and a profit for the day of £5.80.
The bank now stands at £886.10.
There have been 45 lays and 19 have been unplaced which is 42%

Handicap Banker

2009-08-05T12:27:00.000-07:00

Day1
Seven out of 9 successful lays to kick off and a small profit of 0.25 points to Betfair SP for the system which incidentally also includes Irish racing.Has to do better than this to live up to the claims made on the website but still a profit and a reasonable start.Nursery races shall be included as they too are handicap races.

Handicap Banker

2009-08-05T12:15:00.000-07:00

Yet another lay system promising riches for 15 minutes work per day.The website states it's made £4000+ over the last 2 months using £50 stakes,so we'll call that over 40 points a month and we can decide our own stakes.It has a few simple to follow rules and is well written with no padding to bulk up the ebook unnecessarily.If we get to just make a profit it will be a very welcome change so we'll see over the next few weeks if it can come anywhere near the huge claims made on the website.

The Bookie Demolisher

2009-08-05T10:56:00.000-07:00

Day 10
As yet it's not living up to it's name as another 4 bets lose today with no winners and the overall loss moves to 8.57 points.A winner or two tomorrow could quite easily turn it around so I'm not too downhearted at present.

Lowlay

2009-08-05T10:42:00.000-07:00

Day 45

Another losing bet today costing us £32.87 making the loss we had started to recoup move back the other way, our total loss now is £205.27 we need plenty of successful bets now to get back in the black, which of course is entirely possible

Lay and Win

2009-08-05T10:39:00.000-07:00

Day 90

No action today

Lowlay

2009-08-04T13:18:00.000-07:00

Day 44

Todays bet was in the 4:50 Catterick which didnt happen

Lay and Win

2009-08-04T13:16:00.001-07:00

Day 89

No bet today

The Proscoccer Investment File

2009-08-04T13:16:00.000-07:00

There are no further bets this week.
So my next post will be next Monday

The Place To Lay

2009-08-04T13:12:00.000-07:00

Day 15
There were 3 lays today but only one of them was unplaced and a loss of £6.60 for the day.
The bank is now £880.30.
There have been 39 lays and 16 have been unplaced which is 41%